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Saturday, July 12, 2008

A thought-provoking piece from Blogger 2B

GUEST BLOGGER: ElMatador

When all has been said


The recent spate of accusations, denials, more accusations and followed by even more cries and protestations of innocence has led to some very prominent people calling for a stop to all (with emphasis on the all) of these "rumours and garbage". They portray themselves to be righteous and just, by giving equality and weightage to all of the proclaimations, since none of them can be proven.

Following this logic and display of fairness and justice, a bucket full of water is also equal to a bucket full of oil as we will need to scientifically test and confirm the chemical composition of the contents of the two buckets before calling it water or oil. In the same vein, let us say that the only discernable difference between these two photographs (press conference on the first S.D. and when making the second S.D.)


is that one has three persons in it and the other has two. Let us also, for argument's sake, just make us all saints and above reproach and that everyone speaks the truth. And that would make us all very amicable and agreeable, there should be no further issues and hence no further need to talk.

We can therefore return to what this is all about: Who should lead and govern us. This is that which has to be done.

On the one hand, we have a person directly implicated in a horrendous murder, the victim killed and then blown up. Oh my, oh my!

On the other hand we have a person who has a shocking and disgusting sexual taste, my apologies to the homo-sexuals but our society apparently holds this view or it would not be such a big issue, sodomising a worker less than half his age. Tsk! Tsk!

Let us choose: The Horrorible, who can be so unconcerned about being associated with vicious and brutal death that our society may end up living in fear for their very lives. Or: The Disgusting, with a sexual preference so perverted that our society may need to invent a chastity belt for men.

Let us choose: The Horrible, born and bred from a culture of cronyism and megalomania and dedicated to perpectuating that culture, where murder is not a serious crime. Or: The Disgusting, born and bred from a culture of cronyism and megalomania, suffered from it and now dedicated to fighting that culture and to create a new one, where errr, ummmm, judges will deciding if chastity belts are mandatory?

Let us choose: The end of freedom. Or: The end of tyranny.

This is that which has to be done.


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CHALLENGE TO READERS TO CHOOSE -- like when one is caught between a hard place and a rock. Or closer to Malaysians adult enough to Vote: Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea.

Q: Between a (A) MURDERER and a (B) SODOMITE,
who would you choose to be your PRIME MINSITER?
Please give a RATIONALE for your choice. ~~ ElMatador

DESIDERATA: My comments will follow, InsyaAllah:)

Desi rejoins the CONversation/s @7.19PM< Saturdae:


Firstly, remember we are talking Politics, so Sunday school-techers and pupils please stay out of ear and eyeshot. I don't welcome anyone who always holds a high moral ground based on RELIGION to weigh heavy what is essentially a political question.

Secondly, ElMatador is my Guest Blogger and he's master-bait of his own views -- some I agree, some not. I always promote VOLTAIRE's ethos in human discourse: "I may disagree with what you say but I will defend, to the death, your right to say it."BUT let YL clarify that I won't die a physical death just to defend that contrarian of a moron saying moronic stuff and he earns the wrath of a sufficient number of villains pushed enough to push him over the edge. When Voltaire (some researchers said it wasn't Voltaire who said this well-quoted quote, but that's another story ...for Desi) used this phrase "to the death", YL interprets it as "the spirit of giving the Other party enough room to disagree, to an extent of a rational human being grounded in the rules of civil discourse: That's YL's look, you can beg to disagree or jest look away and beggar ElMatador's support:(?

Thirdly, Commenters please answer the Challenge thrown at us by ElMatador, choose in a Theoretical Scenario when you only have two options to pick one man/woman/in-between as your Prime Minister.

I will henceforth write -- with NO DDC! -- as YL Chong the nu'eshound, and also a political activist who enjoys reading RPK's NO HOLDS BARRED columns, with a Without Fear or Favour fervour.

From the outset, let me say I will close my eyes and declare "that I would opt for the SODOMITE over the MURDERER for a Prime Minister". It is an easy enough choice. It is a choice of conscience.

An offence if Sodomy was one falls in the realm of an Individual's sexual preferences; people may argue till the cow comes home and they won't be able to arrive at a consensus whether it's anyone else's business but the COUPLE doing *it -- two guys/gays, one gay, one hererosexual, or two heterosexual or any permutations possible. *it refers to the act of committing "sodomy" however it is defined. Here I am not going into the legality or morality of the act, as long as the candidates for the act are consenting adults.

WHY WOULD ANY THIRD PARTY BE A NOSEY-PARKER TO CONDEMN THE DOERS/PARTNERS?
If thy eyes and ears offend thee, turn away, Boy/Gal, shut them up is my dictum!

YL says: It's the doers/partners' blardy business as long as they do it withing the four walls of a private place where the Sct is not see-able to third parties who may feel offended. Sometimes Sunday school teachers take their pupils for apicnic in the park, so the doers/partners will be committing a public offence if they do it in the park.

Ah,the second option: A MURDERER IN ANY SOCIAL OR IDEOLOGICAL SYSTEM HAS NO PLACE IN CIVIL SOCIETY. Such a peson must be condemned for committing the act of murder (taking away another person's life in an unlawful manner, and a crime of murder earns the Capital Punishment in most countries, precisely because civilised societies will not forgve the murderer. HENCE, YL WON'T ACCEPT A CONVICTED MURDERER FOR HIS COUNTRY'S PRIME MIISTER.

Dear Esteemed Readers, mGf all, please share thy option/s plus the views to justify that choice.


As I write this, I see that a regular conversationist, donPLAYpuks, had already given hs 3sen's worth. Maybe I invite the Guest-Blogger, ElMatador, to engage all comers.

As for second Comment from "Sweetspirit", thanks for your Hi-there! greAtings.

4 comments:

Donplaypuks® said...

Desi

ElMatador is long on speculation and short on facts. He adds nothing new to what has already been blogged to death ad nauseum.

As to choosing between a sodomist and a murderer, again this is not in keeping with the principle of 'innocent until proven guilty.'

Furthermore, those pics of Pee Bala only prove a man under stress, whose credibility has been shot to pieces by his own unprincipled 'U-turn.' Real Men, like Mandela, Ghandhi and Chia Thye Poh, fear nothing, when left with the choice of maintaining truth or facing death. They don't run off to foreign shores and remain non-communicado.

Pee Bala has proven himself a coward of the worst kind, and in that one stupid act, given some credence to the cliched 'when faced with an Indian and a snake...'

No, ElMatador will have to come up with facts to make a mark. Else, he's just another Joe shooting in the dark!!
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sweetspirits said...

Hi Desi
I bought a notebook pc today now i can log by and say hi :) .
Here's hoping you have a great weekend take carez

ElMatador said...

It is interesting how donplaypuks has completely ignored my total collusion with those who say "until we can prove anything, we must stop talking".

He further completely ignores the hypothetical scenario: When faced with that choice, who will you choose?

Perhaps I need to spell it out for you, donplaypuks: It is a question of principalities and morals. And just in case you think that I am a little too harsh on you, I am surprised that you managed to see more than what I have written about the two photos.

ElMatador

Concerned Malaysian said...

Just want to recap my comment in Harris's blog the other day.

If the S admit openly that he is a S, fine he can be the PM. But if he try to hide it and am covering it with a lot of hankie pankie, what is to stop him if he become the most powerful person of this country?

We should also not be ruled by murderer.

Thus we are in a hopeless situation if both the allegations are true.