National Alliance of Bloggers aMore...

Desi thought this issue on THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF BLOGGERS (NAB)
deserves a separate highlight, and I hope the two main protagonists Sdr rockybru (as President of NAB Protem Committee, and Sdr jeff ooi (as Deputy President) would feel free to "ENGAGE" the conversationists here more.
But I truly urge my EsteemedReaders not to jump the gun with too much speculation ala "What If...?" because that leads the way to "Till the cows come home" discussion which Desi feels is not timely or productive AT TIS STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT -- the babe called NAB is just two months old, worth reminding ourselves.



I actually am reluctant to lead this Post, but sometimes exceptions are called for. This is mainly Ahirudin Attan aka Rockybru's and his Protem Committee's territory. Rockybru spoke at the bum2007 Bloggers Gathering on just one subject -- Educating the audience on THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF BLOGGERS or All-Blogs, and being Chair, I picked up the "issue of concern" from fellow Blogger Susan Loone's Blog to address this NAB issue viz-a-viz bum2007 having caused some confusion (Jest an aside: Nu'ecomers, better get used to my digression, which is a privilege to abuse in blogging, hence an XXtra reason to start blogging!:) -- It was no joke after Ijok! At one stage at first Closing deadline on May 9, 2007 we only had 39 registered/paid attendess, and aMore hair grew white and more fell like autumn leaves in da Malaysian summer! And Desi was trying to rat his way oooch, and the Almighty punished with S'ingles. Yes, that itchy-bitchy feeling...)



I reproduce here the key Comments I deem core and relevant to the issue of concern I focused on Yesterday when all my troubles were so far away -- this digression is for NSTman's s'akes!:) --, and hope Rockybru's response answers any still in doubt adequately, and my fellow Org Com buddy The Mobbish One @mob1900.blogspot.com helped to partially address some of Ktemoc's many views and concerns too (good Thinking Aloud too, like Desi's, and Desi likes!), especially the misguided notion that some party has arrogated upon itself the mandate to speak on behalf of all bloggers. I quote: "As far as I know, ALL BLOGS is an acronym for national ALLiance of BLOGgerS not as in a claim to represent every blogger in Malaysia. Everyone of the pro-tem committee are volunteers chosen respectively on the first NAB meet. "

Plus this point about the key objectives outlined by rockybru on NAB:

"...and its objectives are plain and simple:1. To promote blogging2. To protect bloggers."





All opinions on the two core objectives outlined thus far, elaborated on by Rockybru that Saturday night (Yeah, Such a Night!), should really focus on debating the two objectives that Rockybru elaborated on. I too have apprehension some about opening membership to Anonymous Bloggers, but let me settle some loose ends here before I adress this question directly at rockybru.blogspot.com or at jeffooi.com's. Meanwhile, a Big Thank You to all commenters at Desi's Place, and I extend a cuppa of tehtarik -- plus Miss Sunthi but minus the arSENic --to first-timers among them and their intrusion is truly appreciated. Yes, I know "inruysion" suggests somethin' negative like APs appear in the steal of the night. But this is just mere caution on the part of a newshound who dabbles a littlke in rabble-rousing two. If you don't know what I'm tintimating about, please raed aMore at INTIMATIONS! A commercial break!:)


Just an reiteration ~~ What I am stating here on NAB matters is my -- Desiderata's -- perspectives alone but not on NAB's behalf. I am a potential NAB member, but I restate that we need to give the Protem Committee time to finalise its Constitution before we can really engage in lengthy discussions. More and irrelevant rantings at this stage would be likely premature, and some SEMANTICS by AP-clones tend to lead to more divisiveness, not promoting the Cause of Blogging, hence my chief concern. I have travelled similar road before, I was protem chairman and twice annually elected Chairman of the AHC Locally-Engaged Staff Committee. (Bum-ming up my Resume so some tycoons' eyes are caught hear!:)


_________________ (Graduated from Comments )________________

Hey Desi,I was there for the gathering...and hey why are you getting so worked up by that old frustrated SS Goh(monster without balls !) ? He has no balls to even go by his own name and he has to be a parasite (virus) and take pot-shots at anyone who does'nt agree to his bullshit.Forget that old bugger lah...he is all washed-up and lonely and if you give him a little space he will cling to you like the parasite he is and even elect you to be president !You know old man...lonely and insecured about who his friends are ..I heard he had a party on the same day as the bloggers do and only ONE turned up for his birthday party heh...heh....NO a party is more then one ...he had a company of one for his birthday !!!How sad ??? Now you know why I think he is a bucket of shit ?Just ignore the idiot !eventually he'll go away !
By shanghaistephen, at 3:16 PM

Uncle Chong,Congratulations on a well organised BUM nite, from what I heard – my apologies for my inability to attend due to work – some of us have toon weekends ;-).I would have loved to meet up with all of you. I am sure we bloggers, regardless of our persuasion, affiliations, inclinations and indeed age ;-) have a lot to discuss, exchange, network or just gossip (omong kosong).And I agree with you that BUM is separate from All-blogs, though you must forgive us if we perceive the two overlapping in the way things had happened. However, I had been assured by Howsy that BUM is just an informal get-together to exchange views and networkHaving said that, I wonder why you developed the statement for panellists to respond to, namely “That the media environment under the present Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi’s administration is more open and liberal compared to the previous administration under Dr Mahathir Mohamad,” as it asked the speakers WHETHER they agreed OR disagreed”Many of us have wondered whether that was far too provocatively political? Please educate us – what was your objective?Would it have advanced the cause of bloggers? We believe that the now and the future would have been more important to our desired freedom of expression rather than to assess the openness of past administration. But I await your experienced views.I was also taken aback by your acidic “Who appointed you Susan, or Monsterball, to speak as IF at this moment you know the criteria for membership OR that Rockybru already has an Agenda?”Were you saying that Susan and monsterball as bloggers have no right to discuss a proposed NAB that they might be interested in or even play an important role as a committee member? Why this intolerance?I note of late that with certain issues like all-blogs there has been a regrettable lack of tolerance and openness, as if there was a fevered impatience to dismiss other views.The deafening elegant silence from the pro-tem committee has not helped ameliorate the all-blogs controversy which has now reached, I believe, a stage of acrimonious divisiveness among bloggers.Elegant silence is a symptom of non transparency. Can we now say we still hold the hi-moral grounds to tell the AAB government to be transparent when we bloggers can’t even demonstrate that among ourselves?The silence, evasiveness, tap dancing have been unfortunate, and reflects badly on the perpetrators, someof whom we had rallied around when they were under siege. There is a regrettable perception that non-chosen are not welcome to submit their views. So be it – the selected should proceed but excuse us if we don’t comply or submit ourselves.However, the pro-tem committee should now do the decent thing (no, not sepukku) and stick to the original title of the proposed organisation, namely National Alliance of Bloggers, instead of unjustiably assuming All-blogs.That would be presumptuous, arrogant and … I really hate to use this word, and indeed I won’t, so I’ll just say .. not reflecting the true status of the organisation’s representation.
By KTemoc, at 9:35 PM

Hi Desi, Congratulations, Bum2007 was a great success. I did say in my posting the organisation was excellent. Not easy to pull something like that off. Hats off the rest of the committee members, esp Howsy, Lucia, Nat, Li Tsin, and Mob. I heard Jed had to pull out because of other commitments.I've heard people asking why we have Bum2007 as well as All-Blogs, or National Alliance of Bloggers. You have explained it well that evening and here, so there is no need for me to go there.Thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk a bit about All-Blogs that evening. It allowed me to explain how the alliance was set up and why - to protect bloggers and to promote blogging (thanks Mob for the explanation here). I have also explained why we need to be non-partisan. All-Blogs meeting Anwar Ibrahim or Dr M or AAB does not mean we are not apolitical; it simply means we are prepared to meet anyone and we do not prejudice anybody. No issue there.I also spoke about membership of All-Blogs, how the alliance plans to accept Anonymous bloggers, non-Sopo bloggers, bloggers who use nicknames, and bloggers who identify themselves.The All-Blogs protem exco has met twice since we were formed early April. We'll be meeting for the third time end month or early June to finalise the constitution. Thank you.
By AHIRUDIN ATTAN, at 3:14 AM


________________________________________________

DESIDERATA's PS: To shanghaistephen, Thanks for thy input. I did Not have any background klnowledge about said Commenter; in fact I respond to him as I would other Conversationists. But Regular Readers here who earn my esteem know my inclination to interact more with Readers with an ID link, even pseudonyms, hence your point on Anonymity is well supported by Desi.

PPS (and that's knot projectpetalkingstreet, K!:): To ktemoc and brudder rockybru.
I would invite rockybru, also saudara jeffooi, to address the "interesting" issues raised by ktemoc. I would respond points related to bum2007 later, so ktemoc, bear with me w'ile I take 5! The "saudara" reference is Desi's socialist bent and this is an inherent danger my ER (EsteemedReaders-lah, why so slow wan?) face when intruding into Desi's Place, in the still (steal?) of the night.
G'od Bless us awe Malaysians, especially Raja Petra Kamaruddin who turned up lust minute dat knight to give Desi's heart another bum-bum-p because he mentioned about kambing for SpecialBrunch when I said it was free warrant-buffeted dinner...

I:
S:
A: men.