A fw names come to mind when we talk of Forggies in Malaysian politics -- Ibnrahim Ali, Jeffrey Kitinggan, Wee Choo Keong, Zulkiflie Noordin, ad nauseum.... Perkosa's, Ooops, Perkasa's Ib giveth the loudest applause to the proposed Anti-Hopping law now being revived at the Penang State Legislature level.
Of course, it's always the empty vessel that makes the most noise. BUT IN POLITICS, THE MORE DANGEROUS ARE THOSE WHO SING WITH A FORKED TONGUE. This KATAK is the prime example of the double-speak politicians, or who holds on to the principle: DO AS I SAY, DON'T DO AS I DO!
From mmail.com.my:
Stop jumping ship, says Ibrahim
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 22, 2012 - 13:53
by Azril Annuar
Location:
PETALING JAYA
VEHEMENT: Switching parties should not be part of personal agenda.
MALAYSIA’s most active party hopper and Pasir Mas MP, Datuk Ibrahim Ali is himself against party hopping.
However Ibrahim, who has been accused of being a political “turncoat” himself, clarified that he was “against” jumping ship if it was done as part of a “personal agenda”.
He said Opposition defacto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s move to entice BN politicians, as is being done now especially in Sabah, to join him is only part of the latter’s plan to become the nation’s premier.
Asked about DAP national chairman Karpal Singh’s stance against party hopping, Ibrahim blasted Karpal saying: “I think the first thing for Karpal Singh to do is to advice Anwar not to try to pull over BN members to join Pakatan.
“Karpal Singh must be consistent. He should not consistently attack BN. He must be consistent in his principles. If you’re talking about human rights and democracy, it is up to the members whether they want to hop or not.
“For example if the party doesn’t perform and serve the people well, how can the member stay with the party?” Ibrahim told The Malay Mail.
He said that the most important reason for being an MP or a state assemblyman is to serve the people.
“If the party isn’t fulfilling its promises, you shouldn’t be in the party. You can hop with solid reasons. For Anwar, it’s different. He just wants to fulfill his personal agenda to become Prime Minister, not to serve the people. I am against doing it for personal agenda,” he said.
****He proceeded to defend himself, saying he never hopped from PAS and that he only contested under the party flag as an independent.
“It’s a collaboration between us. I help them, they help me,” he said.
Ibrahim was first elected to Parliament in the 1986 election for the United Malay National Organisation in the ruling Barisan Nasional coalition.
He later held the seat for Semangat 46 before losing it and recontested it as an independent candidate in the 2004 election. In the 2008 election, Ibrahim ran for the seat on the endorsement of the opposition Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party and was re-elcted.
However, Ibrahim subsequently fell out with PAS, and now sits as an independent in Parliament, having indicated a willingness to support the BN government.
DESIDERATA: This para **** highlighted bu Desi (THUS BOLDED) maketh Ibrahim the greatest HYPOCRITE of damned all! Yeah, PAS is your papa's maid to use to F***K as you like eh? After successful gaining entry, YOU CRY WOOLF EH -- The party leadership wants me out,, so I go eh?
DESIDERATA2:
A longer piece that examines the contrary views of more politicians follows, yes, from THE MALAY MAIL, which for the past six months that I occasionally peep in, now features some "readable" reports, unlike just a year back when it was just like NST, Utusan, another UMNO-pro-paganda-ganda-wang anda mouthpiece:( Please NOTE that the highlights are awe mine, Desi''s , alone KNOT anywan else'S ~~~YL, Desi
To hop or not to hop?
Politicians on both divides discuss beliefs on ‘political frogs’
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 22, 2012 - 14:17
by Azril Annuar
Location:
PETALING JAYA
IT’S a Catch-22 situation with some politicians caught between principles and political expedience when it comes to party hopping.
The present debate was sparked following DAP national chairman Karpal Singh’s stand on party hopping, which he labelled as a “betrayal of the electorate”.
In the meantime, Pakatan Rakyat de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim is enticing Barisan Nasional (BN) members to cross over.
PKR information chief Chua Tian Chiang (Tian Chua) denied the recent BN exodus in Sabah, for instance, as incidents of party hopping as the three politicians did not join for any favourable gain.
“People who quit the BN because they disagree with the policies are not party hopping. This happens in any democracy,” he said.
“Party hopping is enticing someone by buying them over. We have nothing to offer them.
“The Sabah MPs left on principle”.
The Sabah exodus saw Datuk Seri Lajim Ukin, Datuk Seri Wilfred Bumburing and Senator Datuk Maijol Mahap resign from their respective BN parties to become pro-Pakatan politicians.
PAS vice-president Salahuddin Ayub said that if a BN member prefers PR due to matters of principle, it is acceptable as the Opposition “has never offered any rewards” to those who jump ship.
“What happened in Sabah was not party hopping. We engaged with them. If someone shares our belief, he is welcome to join us. We have never offered anyone any rewards to join us.
“This is our principle and we believe that the truth will prevail,” he said. DAP vice-chairman M. Kulasegaran agreed with his chairman, saying it would be beneficial to both the PR and BN if the Anti Hopping Act comes into effect.
“The current law says that if an MP resigns, he cannot contest in the next five years. We need to address this law. If someone wants to change party, he should resign from his post as MP and re-contest.
“That is the morally correct ground to stand on as you will not be betraying your electorates,” said the Ipoh Barat MP, who saw his coalition lose Perak after the resignation of two PKR and one DAP assemblywoman from their parties to be BN-friendly independents.
MIC deputy president and Human Resource Minister Datuk Dr S. Subramaniam also agreed with Karpal’s views, saying it is an “unspoken rule of loyalty for honourable politicians”.
However, he blasted his political exponent, pointing out that Anwar’s actions spoke volumes against Karpal’s moral high ground.
“Of course, in principle Karpal’s right, but PR is enticing others from BN to join them.
“So, whatever principle they preach, they shouldn’t go around and entice others to join Pakatan.
“Within Pakatan there is no consistent policy. Individuals and parties do whatever they want.
“It’s not surprising that one person speaks from a moral platform while the other goes about doing whatever he wants to do,” Subramaniam said.
Deputy Higher Education Minister Datuk Saifuddin Abdullah, meanwhile, believes in party loyalty.
“I don’t believe in party jumping until and unless you’re sacked, or the party ceases to exist.
“I hope the rakyat will look at this seriously and do their own evaluation that even within Pakatan Rakyat, there are senior party members who have been leading figures in DAP who disagree with the opposition leadership,” he said.
DESIDERATA2: I remember once the Sabah State Legislative Assembly (I stand/sit coirrected OK!) had indeed adopted an Anti-Hopping Law, but the PBS brothers Pairin Kitingan and Jeffrey led their cohorts destroyed this progressive concept/move which would have prevented the fall of duly-elected government when MONEY could buy over some ADUNs to jump ship.
Before the Parliament can proceed with such a law, I recommend it rescinds the "bar" of resigning MPs to re-contest (within five years?); this would enable any MP to resign on grounds of PRINCIPLE, then re-contest as an Independednt. Kudos to such a practitioner SHARIR SAMAD, once MP of Johor Bahru elected on BN-UMNO ticket, who resigned as he opposed the UMNO top leadership on certain issues. He gallantly won the seat again as an Independent. Hey, king Froggeie Ibrahim, can take some tuition of what PRINCIPLED POLITICS means from YB Shahrir?
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