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Saturday, January 19, 2013

Look -- who is selling out the nation's sovereignty? IV

I was checking the sun2surf.com to see if I could Cut&Pastry the fiull report I partially wrote out by LONG-HAND --I didn't find it; instead, what greeted Desi was another at-first-instance-reading "shocking" Mahathir bomb. He porposed another RCI -- of citizenship granted pre-Malaya Independence!

Here is the full The Sun report copied from its Online edition:~~~


Hold RCI for granting of citizenships pre-independence: Dr M

BUKIT MERTAJAM (Jan 19, 2013): Former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad suggested that a Royal Commission of Inquiry be set up to investigate the granting of citizenships to one million foreign immigrants in the Federation of Malaya, before Malaysia gained independence.
However, he emphasised that it was merely a suggestion, because any such investigation should be comprehensive and not focused on just one side.
"I'm just suggesting it, and not really serious about (implementing) it. But if there's an investigation it must be comprehensive, it's not fair to focus on only one matter," he said.
He was speaking to reporters after delivering the keynote address at the '2013 Penang Malays Economic and Education Transformation' convention at Universiti Teknologi Mara, here today.
He had been asked to comment on criticisms levelled at him for granting citizenships to 200,000 foreign immigrants in Sabah, during the time he was prime minister.
Saying the 200,000 foreign immigrants had been in Sabah for more than 20 years, spoke Malay and had assimilated local culture, he added," From a legal standpoint there were eligible for the citizenships."
Furthermore, he said the granting of citizenships to one million foreign immigrants who came to Malaysia before independence was done by former first Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra Al-Haj even though it was not provided in the law at the time.
"This situation came about because the Malays are generous and prepared to dilute their power, and this is very different from what happened in Sabah because they had the right to have citizenships," he said.
Earlier in his address, he urged the Malays to weigh matters before making a decision and not just follow their emotions and feelings which could jeopardise the nation.
"There are those who are so obsessed with their leaders that even when they (the leaders) are wrong ', they support them. So we must be very careful in not letting ourselves be influenced by such emotions and feelings," he said.
Also present at the convention were Dr Mahathir's wife, Tun Dr Siti Hasmah Mohd Ali, Perkasa president Datuk Ibrahim Ali and Penang Perkasa president Yusof Suhaimi Mohd Yatim. – Bernama

DESIDERATA: At present, I just am shaking my head in DISBELIEF. The former Prime Minitser seems to be able to "shock" us again and again, maybe till his lust breath -- But Desi migfht not surive him though he be 22 years my senior! I am writing this short in RED because I smely DANGER emitting from this Olde Fox. So I will frame a longer commentary TOMORROW, i.e. if my God allows me another 24 on this GOoD Earth, InsyaAllah.

Friday, January 18, 2013

Media Watch: MEDIA WARS in Sarawak

maketh Desi smile loudly and feel hopeful that another David can bring down the Goliath!

Being a journlist myself for all my working life, I have always been monitoring MEDIA in NegaraKu with deep interest, and concern. What lifts Desi's heART cometh the following from Hornbillunleashed -- again!


Hornbillunleashed

January 18, 2013

Media Wars!

Filed under: Human rights — Hornbill Unleashed @ 6:29 PM 
Tags: 
Sarawak Report
How it was reported in the Borneo Post (run by Taib’s timber cronies KTS)
The Chief Minister has lost his cool and demanded the federal government adopt illegal means to jam the independent radio station, Radio Free Sarawak.
At the same time, his political client, the leader of PRS James Masing, appeared even more heat up as he called for the military to be brought in to shut the station up, as it has been “poisoning the minds” of his constituents!
““We have sent men to the moon and vehicles to Mars, so don’t tell me that we can’t even jam these radio stations.”[Masing]
Considering the balance of power over the media in Sarawak, it would seem these two big dogs are making a great deal of fuss over one very small flea.
BN’s media monopoly
Chief Editor? – Hanifah wanders around Sarawak Tribune suggesting articles about handbags and making sure nothing is said to upset her Dad
After all, for the past 40 years Taib and his family have exercised total control over the local press and broadcast media, either through direct family members or the owners of crony logging companies.  The national media meanwhile is controlled by his allies in UMNO and their business clients.
The method is simple, BN bans anyone from publishing anything without a licence and they only give licences to people they can trust and control.
This means BN in Sarawak have got used to having all news reported just as they want (or suppressed altogether if that is what they prefer) and the public have simply not been allowed to hear a single word of criticism or an  inconvenient fact about the government for several decades.
It is such a family affair indeed that Taib’s own daughter Hanifah, who clearly fancies herself a top journalist, has installed herself as the boss of Sarawak’s second paper, The Sarawak Tribune.
Getting the job would not have been hard and it certainly did not involve training or rising up through the ranks.  Because the ownership of Tribune Press Sdn Bhd is in the hands of none other than her father’s ubiquitous cousin and favourite business proxy, Hamed Sepawi and his ever-present business parter Hasmi bin Hasnan (who suddenly hit riches after a career in Taib’s own Land & Survey Department).
Editor, Hanifah Taib (daughter of the Chief Minister) screams and shouts if anything her father doesn’t like appears in the Sarawak Tribune.
The Borneo Post meanwhile and its sister paper Utusan Borneo are controlled by Taib’s crony timber company KTS.
Self-serving lies make the front page of KTS’s Borneo Post
When foreign journalists, including the news agency Agence France Press (AFP) came to report on protests and blockades against logging being carried out by Pusaka KTS the Borneo Post immediately reported as front page headlines that the protests were caused by ‘Foreign Instigators”!
Could not such reporting be described as somewhat self-serving?Another major shareholder of the Borneo Post is Taib’s brother, the YB Mohd Ali Mahmud.
And then there is the Star Newspaper which is majority owned by the Malay Chinese Association, the second biggest party in BN and the New Straits Times, which like a string of other newspapers and all the non-government TV news channels is owned by the UMNO controlled media giant Media Prima.
RTM is of course controlled by the government and the only satellite station in Malaysia, Astro (which is being distributed round the longhouses during the election free to try and counter Radio Free Sarawak) is owned by Malaysia’s second richest man Ananda Krishnan, who got rich by sucking up to BN.
And what about Sarawak’s only “Private” radio station Cats Radio?
“Private and independent”? – Cats is wholly owned by Kristal Harta Sdn Bhd
How did it manage to get its licence while nobody else did you might wonder?  Kristal Harta is owned by Hanib Corporation and Hanib Corporation is owned once more by Hanifah Taib, her sister in law Anisa (married to brother Sulaiman) and yet another Taib brother, her late Uncle Ibrahim Mahmud!
Hanifah Taib, Sarawak’s answer to Rupert Murdoch?
So when it comes to the media in Sarawak, like everything else it is pretty much a Taib family affair!
 Elephant afraid of a mouse?
listened to eagerly in longhouses
So why are the Chief Minister and his henchmen becoming so hysterical about a modest two hour daily show that is broadcast on shortwave radio (and available onlineSW15420kHz)?
How can Radio Free Sarawak threaten a media monopoly that controls nearly every single thing that people can read and listen to in the Sarawak interior and why should minds be “poisoned” by just a few programmes when they have been “educated and informed” by years and years of relentless BN propaganda everywhere they turn?
How can two hours of Radio Free Sarawak undo all BN’s efforts?
Maybe it is because Radio Free Sarawak offers hope and maybe it is because Radio Free Sarawak is saying for the first time out loud those obvious and simple truths that everyone can recognise about what has been going on in Sarawak?
Instead of ‘double-speak’ from politicians who argue black is white and get away with spouting rubbish, because no one dares challenge them, on Radio Free Sarawak you hear real people talking about what has happened to their lives.
This little programme provides an alternative for Sarawak’s cheated poor communities, who have lost everything to the greedy gangsters who have hijacked their government.
For years the BN press and radio lectured them that they had no other choice and that they should never criticise their rulers, because they would suffer and be punished. Now Radio Free Sarawak has stood up to the bullies and they are lost for a reply .
BN is boring
Makes sense!
The danger for BN is that Radio Free Sarawak is not poisoning minds, it is liberating minds. A free media is a pillar of democracy and by destroying it Taib has set out to kill democracy in Sarawak.
By refusing to allow criticism, by refusing to let people listen to contrasting views, by banning inconvenient information Taib has ruled as a totalitarian despot, not the ‘democratically elected leader’ he likes to pretend that he is.
But he has also pent up a great deal of frustration, so that when listeners finally hear a fresh view they embrace it with enthusiasm.
Without a free press there has been no accountability for Taib’s government.  The Mahmuds have got away with taking everything and they have never been challenged. Until one little voice which has at last spoken out with RFS.
So, Taib is right to be afraid. Small voices can say big things. They can reveal vast corruption, they can explain the reason behind things, they can challenge self-serving politicians, they can bring news and they can offer alternatives and choices that BN don’t want people to know or think about.
In the uneven struggle between Taib’s media monolith and little Radio Free Sarawak, maybe truth, now that it is being heard, can win?
“freeing the press has become absolutely critical in achieving greater accountability in that country [Indonesia]” [Tim Lankester, Ex-Foreign Office and President of Corpus Christi Oxford, speaking this week about why Indonesia is much more democratic and accountable than Malaysia]

Look -- who is selling out our nation's sovereignty? III

As I could NOT locate the item in theSun Online, I have to rely on writing out in LONG HAND reading the print edition. I paid 30sen for a copy this morn -- NO, UNLIKE YOU KEDEKUT who lined up at the seven11 to pick up a free kopi! -- this is jest stating for the record. Also, I but at laet The Star or The NST NOT because I support the papers -- I am a Media WATCHER, so I have to part with my freelance heART earned ringiit to achieve my purpose; yeah, can I shout I am doing some sort of National Service?!

Page 02,


Dr M admits giving ICs to Sabah immigrants


SHAH ALAM: Former prime
minister Tun Dr Mahathir
Mohammad (sic) has admitted that
Malaysian identity cards (IC)
were issued to immigrants in
Sabah under his administration.
   He however denied that the
project was illegal as all
procedures were according to
laws enacted under the federal
constitution.
   Mahathirm who was premier
from1981 to 2003, said he is
willing to testify at the ongoing
Royal Commissionof Inquiry
(RCI) intoIllegal Immigration in
Sabah if called, but said no one
has called him yet.
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DESIDERATA: I will continue to writHe the full report if I survive the churning in my stomach after reading the the full report, and murmuring/cursing/shouting quietly (expletives).....See you later, InsyaAllah.

Contd @8.45PM: I didn't sight the item when I checked sun2surf.com another time; so I will just pluck ONE important para for comment, viz:)~~~

Mahathir claimed that the
country's firstprime minister,
Tunku Abdul Rahman, gave one
million citizenship cards to
immigrants in Peninsular
Malaysia after Independence in
1957.
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   ]MEANWHILE, I URGE THE RCI TO INVITE THE FORMER PM DR MAHATHIR, TAKING ON HIS OFFER, TO APPEAR AS A WITNESS AT THE INQUIRY. I AWAIT WITH BATED BREATH TO HEAR FROM HIM UNDER OATH; then I will continue with more comments, assuming I survive the wait for Dr M's cooperance appearance. ~~ YL, Desi, knottyaSsusual

Look -- who is selling out our nation's sovereignty? II


Please read the following report, reproduced from The Sun/Daily Express, in conjunction with yesterday's post. Please Stay Tuned as I hunt down the more important -- and shicking when Desi first read in in the print edition of The Sun -- titled: "Dr M admits giving ICs to Sabah imigrants". First checks of sun2surf.com did not yield this item -- DID THE PAPER HOLD BACK THIS CONTROVERSIAL ITEM? ~~ YL, Desi

16,000 temporary IC receipts were issued, says witness

Kota Kinabalu (Jan 18, 2013): Former National Registration Department (NRD) Sabah Deputy Director, Mohd Nasir Sugip disclosed that about 16,000 temporary IC receipts (JPN 1/9 and 1/11) were issued to increase the number of voters in the 1994 State election.
Nasir, also an ISA detainee, was the 10th witness who was called before the Royal Commission Inquiry (RCI) on Illegal Immigrants in Sabah.
Presently the Managing Director of a company, he said he served in the public sector from 1980 to 1995 but held the deputy director post here from 1992 to 1994.
He said the Sabah NRD Director at that time was Ramli Kamaruddin.
Nasir, from Johor, was detained under the ISA on May 30, 1995 and was sent to a detention centre in Kamunting, Perak until he was released on May 30, 1998.
He said police arrested him under the ISA for allegedly issuing Malaysian ICs through dubious means and not adhering to the law.
Nasir told the RCI panel that the JPN 1/9 were temporary IC receipts while the JPN 1/11 were missing or lost IC receipts. He added the names in those receipts were eligible to vote.
He said the targets for the receipts were men and women over 20 years old who were Indonesians and Filipinos to increase the number of Bumiputera voters in the election. He said these holders were identified from the West and East Coasts of the State.
Conducting Officer Datuk Azmi Ariffin had to refresh the memory of Nasir by reading out his statement taken by an Investigating Officer appointed by the RCI on Dec 14 last year in Kuala Lumpur.
"Based on the statement, Nasir said he started to get involved in the task on 1992 to 1993 (involving P3 which was the temporary IC receipts that were allegedly obtained through dubious means and not used by the NRD.
"The Election Commission (EC) Director at that time was Datuk Wan Ahmad who called a NRD staff from the citizenship division named Azmi Abdul Karim and handed over a list of over 16,000 names listed in the EC roll to benefit as Bumiputera Muslim voters.
"Subsequently, Azmi had highlighted the matter to Ramli the NRD Sabah Director at that time and I was called by Ramli for a discussion in his office together with Azmi and another NRD staff whose name I can't remember.
"Ramli had highlighted the matter to the Deputy Director-General of NRD Awang bin Yaakub who had also issued a written order to carry out the project," Azmi said when reading out the statement at the hearing.
He further read that Nasir together with Ramli, Azmi Abdul Karim and another officer had signed an order to execute the project.
"Ramli later ordered us to use the names (over 16,000) in the EC list and changed all the particulars in the receipts (JPN 1/9 and JPN 1/11) to have more Bumiputera voters in Sabah.
"After that I was verbally ordered to assign staff who could be trusted to do the tasks in Sandakan, Semporna, Lahad Datu and in other districts in an operation named as 'Ops Durian Buruk (spoilt durian)'," Azmi said based on Nasir's statement.
To a question by the Conducting Officer, Nasir said the Ops Durian Buruk involved a change of the date of birth, photos and IC numbers based on the names given by the EC.
He said the Deputy Director-General of NRD had ordered the change of the identities of the holders and they signed a pledge to carry out the order together with Ramli and Azmi Abdul Karim.
He said no rewards were given to him for executing the operation and he was uncertain whether the holders were given any reward.
On whether the holders of the receipts were distributed across the State seats, Nasir said 800 such receipt holders were despatched to an east coast seat.
To a question from RCI Chairman Tan Sri Steve Shim, Nasir said there was some kind of collaboration and cooperation between the EC and NRD on this kind of exercise.

Thursday, January 17, 2013

Look -- who's selling out our nation's sovereignty?

From The Malaysian Insider:~~~~



Filipino refugee says got blue IC without applying for it

UPDATED @ 03:07:43 PM 17-01-2013
January 17, 2013
KOTA KINABALU, Jan 17 — A Filipino refugee told the Royal Commission of Inquiry (RCI) on illegal immigrants here today that he had received a blue identity card without applying for it.
Ismail Balaka said he fled to Sabah in 1975 to escape the civil war in the Philippines.
The refugee told the RCI he got his IC without applying for it. — Picture courtesy of humanrightspartymalaysia.com
“Did you obtain your identity card without going to the National Registration Department (NRD)?” asked conducting officer Jamil Aripin at the RCI here today.
“That’s correct,” said Ismail.
He added that he also registered as a voter and has voted five times in Sabah.
Ismail, a shipbuilding worker, said he is now staying at the Kinarut settlement in Sabah with his second Filipino wife and their four children, who all have blue identity cards too.
He added that his first wife, who is also from the Philippines, was taking care of their five children.
Ismail said he and some others were called one day to gather at their village hall, but did not specify when.
Some people, whom Ismail said he could not identify, told him and the other villagers to sign a form, give their fingerprints and have their picture taken.
“I heard that we would be given Malaysian identity cards. After three or five months, I received a blue identity card,” said Ismail, according to his statement to the police that Jamil read out.
Ismail, who wore a white shirt, added that he did not pay for the identity card.
He also said that he did not possess any documents before getting the blue identity card, such as the red or green identity card for permanent residence or temporary residence respectively.
He denied that he was given conditions or told how to vote before getting the blue identity card.
Former Sabah NRD assistant registrar Kee Dzulkifly Kee Abd Jalil testified yesterday that 100,000 blue identity cards were given to Filipino, Indonesian and Pakistani immigrants in Sabah in 1993.
Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, Malaysia’s longest-serving prime minister who was in power from 1981 to 2003, has been accused of spearheading the so-called “Project IC” in which citizenship was allegedly given to immigrants for their votes.
But former Sabah Chief Minister Tan Sri Harris Salleh, who administered the state from 1976 to 1985, denied on Tuesday the existence of “Project IC”.
Ismail said today that he did not intend to return to the Philippines.
Another Filipino refugee called Hatta Ghani testified today that he received a blue identity card in 1990 after applying for it in 1988, but had never had a red identity card.
Hatta, a construction worker, also said that he registered as a voter immediately after getting the blue identity card.
“I voted once in Keningau and twice in Kawang,” said Hatta, who wore a white kopiah.
The inquiry before former Chief Judge of Sabah and Sarawak Tan Sri Steve Shim Lip Kiong resumes in the afternoon.

Wednesday, January 16, 2013

A Rose by Any Other NAME...II

In my occasional discussions with a buddy I shall call SC since he's in the stocks and shares sector, the subject of RELIGION rops up, along with Salvation as claimed by the different faiths. Here I am reproducing a famous essay by a philosopher BERTRAND RUSSELL which I believe is worth reading in the current environment where many Malaysians waste precious time debating about who can or cannot use the term "ALLAH" when other emerging economic powers like India and China are preparing to send their astronauts to the Moon, which of course the Russians and Americans had touched base with decades ago. Of course NegaraKu hailed its first spaceman when all that was achieved was flying into orbit as a paying passenger (like the way we take a taxi to the airport....). Minta maaf if I digress. If thou don't like it, please get the here out of Hell!


The essay I reprise could have easily seen a counterpiece titled "Why I am not a Muslim" or "Why I am not a Hindu", and so forth -- if indeed there had been such a published endeavour, please email to Desi cun? at chongyl2000@yahoo.com. I'll bye ye endless rounds of tehtarik lah if you can ketchUP with Desi at De Miang Konrer!:(

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Why I Am Not A Christian
by Bertrand Russell


Introductory note: Russell delivered this lecture on March 6, 1927 to the National Secular Society, South London Branch, at Battersea Town Hall. Published in pamphlet form in that same year, the essay subsequently achieved new fame with Paul Edwards' edition of Russell's book, Why I Am Not a Christian and Other Essays ... (1957).

As your Chairman has told you, the subject about which I am going to speak to you tonight is "Why I Am Not a Christian." Perhaps it would be as well, first of all, to try to make out what one means by the word Christian. It is used these days in a very loose sense by a great many people. Some people mean no more by it than a person who attempts to live a good life. In that sense I suppose there would be Christians in all sects and creeds; but I do not think that that is the proper sense of the word, if only because it would imply that all the people who are not Christians -- all the Buddhists, Confucians, Mohammedans, and so on -- are not trying to live a good life. I do not mean by a Christian any person who tries to live decently according to his lights. I think that you must have a certain amount of definite belief before you have a right to call yourself a Christian. The word does not have quite such a full-blooded meaning now as it had in the times of St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas. In those days, if a man said that he was a Christian it was known what he meant. You accepted a whole collection of creeds which were set out with great precision, and every single syllable of those creeds you believed with the whole strength of your convictions.

What Is a Christian?

Nowadays it is not quite that. We have to be a little more vague in our meaning of Christianity. I think, however, that there are two different items which are quite essential to anybody calling himself a Christian. The first is one of a dogmatic nature -- namely, that you must believe in God and immortality. If you do not believe in those two things, I do not think that you can properly call yourself a Christian. Then, further than that, as the name implies, you must have some kind of belief about Christ. The Mohammedans, for instance, also believe in God and in immortality, and yet they would not call themselves Christians. I think you must have at the very lowest the belief that Christ was, if not divine, at least the best and wisest of men. If you are not going to believe that much about Christ, I do not think you have any right to call yourself a Christian. Of course, there is another sense, which you find in Whitaker's Almanack and in geography books, where the population of the world is said to be divided into Christians, Mohammedans, Buddhists, fetish worshipers, and so on; and in that sense we are all Christians. The geography books count us all in, but that is a purely geographical sense, which I suppose we can ignore.Therefore I take it that when I tell you why I am not a Christian I have to tell you two different things: first, why I do not believe in God and in immortality; and, secondly, why I do not think that Christ was the best and wisest of men, although I grant him a very high degree of moral goodness. But for the successful efforts of unbelievers in the past, I could not take so elastic a definition of Christianity as that. As I said before, in olden days it had a much more full-blooded sense. For instance, it included he belief in hell. Belief in eternal hell-fire was an essential item of Christian belief until pretty recent times. In this country, as you know, it ceased to be an essential item because of a decision of the Privy Council, and from that decision the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Archbishop of York dissented; but in this country our religion is settled by Act of Parliament, and therefore the Privy Council was able to override their Graces and hell was no longer necessary to a Christian. Consequently I shall not insist that a Christian must believe in hell.

The Existence of God

To come to this question of the existence of God: it is a large and serious question, and if I were to attempt to deal with it in any adequate manner I should have to keep you here until Kingdom Come, so that you will have to excuse me if I deal with it in a somewhat summary fashion. You know, of course, that the Catholic Church has laid it down as a dogma that the existence of God can be proved by the unaided reason. That is a somewhat curious dogma, but it is one of their dogmas. They had to introduce it because at one time the freethinkers adopted the habit of saying that there were such and such arguments which mere reason might urge against the existence of God, but of course they knew as a matter of faith that God did exist. The arguments and the reasons were set out at great length, and the Catholic Church felt that they must stop it. Therefore they laid it down that the existence of God can be proved by the unaided reason and they had to set up what they considered were arguments to prove it. There are, of course, a number of them, but I shall take only a few. 

The First-cause Argument

Perhaps the simplest and easiest to understand is the argument of the First Cause. (It is maintained that everything we see in this world has a cause, and as you go back in the chain of causes further and further you must come to a First Cause, and to that First Cause you give the name of God.) That argument, I suppose, does not carry very much weight nowadays, because, in the first place, cause is not quite what it used to be. The philosophers and the men of science have got going on cause, and it has not anything like the vitality it used to have; but, apart from that, you can see that the argument that there must be a First Cause is one that cannot have any validity. I may say that when I was a young man and was debating these questions very seriously in my mind, I for a long time accepted the argument of the First Cause, until one day, at the age of eighteen, I read John Stuart Mill's Autobiography, and I there found this sentence: "My father taught me that the question 'Who made me?' cannot be answered, since it immediately suggests the further question `Who made god?'" That very simple sentence showed me, as I still think, the fallacy in the argument of the First Cause. If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause. If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God, so that there cannot be any validity in that argument. It is exactly of the same nature as the Hindu's view, that the world rested upon an elephant and the elephant rested upon a tortoise; and when they said, "How about the tortoise?" the Indian said, "Suppose we change the subject." The argument is really no better than that. There is no reason why the world could not have come into being without a cause; nor, on the other hand, is there any reason why it should not have always existed. There is no reason to suppose that the world had a beginning at all. The idea that things must have a beginning is really due to the poverty of our imagination. Therefore, perhaps, I need not waste any more time upon the argument about the First Cause. 

The Natural-law Argument

Then there is a very common argument from natural law. That was a favorite argument all through the eighteenth century, especially under the influence of Sir Isaac Newton and his cosmogony. People observed the planets going around the sun according to the law of gravitation, and they thought that God had given a behest to these planets to move in that particular fashion, and that was why they did so. That was, of course, a convenient and simple explanation that saved them the trouble of looking any further for explanations of the law of gravitation. Nowadays we explain the law of gravitation in a somewhat complicated fashion that Einstein has introduced. I do not propose to give you a lecture on the law of gravitation, as interpreted by Einstein, because that again would take some time; at any rate, you no longer have the sort of natural law that you had in the Newtonian system, where, for some reason that nobody could understand, nature behaved in a uniform fashion. We now find that a great many things we thought were natural laws are really human conventions. You know that even in the remotest depths of stellar space there are still three feet to a yard. That is, no doubt, a very remarkable fact, but you would hardly call it a law of nature. And a great many things that have been regarded as laws of nature are of that kind. On the other hand, where you can get down to any knowledge of what atoms actually do, you will find they are much less subject to law than people thought, and that the laws at which you arrive are statistical averages of just the sort that would emerge from chance. There is, as we all know, a law that if you throw dice you will get double sixes only about once in thirty-six times, and we do not regard that as evidence that the fall of the dice is regulated by design; on the contrary, if the double sixes came every time we should think that there was design. The laws of nature are of that sort as regards a great many of them. They are statistical averages such as would emerge from the laws of chance; and that makes this whole business of natural law much less impressive than it formerly was. Quite apart from that, which represents the momentary state of science that may change tomorrow, the whole idea that natural laws imply a lawgiver is due to a confusion between natural and human laws. Human laws are behests commanding you to behave a certain way, in which you may choose to behave, or you may choose not to behave; but natural laws are a description of how things do in fact behave, and being a mere description of what they in fact do, you cannot argue that there must be somebody who told them to do that, because even supposing that there were, you are then faced with the question "Why did God issue just those natural laws and no others?" If you say that he did it simply from his own good pleasure, and without any reason, you then find that there is something which is not subject to law, and so your train of natural law is interrupted. If you say, as more orthodox theologians do, that in all the laws which God issues he had a reason for giving those laws rather than others -- the reason, of course, being to create the best universe, although you would never think it to look at it -- if there were a reason for the laws which God gave, then God himself was subject to law, and therefore you do not get any advantage by introducing God as an intermediary. You really have a law outside and anterior to the divine edicts, and God does not serve your purpose, because he is not the ultimate lawgiver. In short, this whole argument about natural law no longer has anything like the strength that it used to have. I am traveling on in time in my review of the arguments. The arguments that are used for the existence of God change their character as time goes on. They were at first hard intellectual arguments embodying certain quite definite fallacies. As we come to modern times they become less respectable intellectually and more and more affected by a kind of moralizing vagueness. 

The Argument from Design

The next step in the process brings us to the argument from design. You all know the argument from design: everything in the world is made just so that we can manage to live in the world, and if the world was ever so little different, we could not manage to live in it. That is the argument from design. It sometimes takes a rather curious form; for instance, it is argued that rabbits have white tails in order to be easy to shoot. I do not know how rabbits would view that application. It is an easy argument to parody. You all know Voltaire's remark, that obviously the nose was designed to be such as to fit spectacles. That sort of parody has turned out to be not nearly so wide of the mark as it might have seemed in the eighteenth century, because since the time of Darwin we understand much better why living creatures are adapted to their environment. It is not that their environment was made to be suitable to them but that they grew to be suitable to it, and that is the basis of adaptation. There is no evidence of design about it. When you come to look into this argument from design, it is a most astonishing thing that people can believe that this world, with all the things that are in it, with all its defects, should be the best that omnipotence and omniscience have been able to produce in millions of years. I really cannot believe it. Do you think that, if you were granted omnipotence and omniscience and millions of years in which to perfect your world, you could produce nothing better than the Ku Klux Klan or the Fascists? Moreover, if you accept the ordinary laws of science, you have to suppose that human life and life in general on this planet will die out in due course: it is a stage in the decay of the solar system; at a certain stage of decay you get the sort of conditions of temperature and so forth which are suitable to protoplasm, and there is life for a short time in the life of the whole solar system. You see in the moon the sort of thing to which the earth is tending -- something dead, cold, and lifeless.
 I am told that that sort of view is depressing, and people will sometimes tell you that if they believed that, they would not be able to go on living. Do not believe it; it is all nonsense. Nobody really worries about much about what is going to happen millions of years hence. Even if they think they are worrying much about that, they are really deceiving themselves. They are worried about something much more mundane, or it may merely be a bad digestion; but nobody is really seriously rendered unhappy by the thought of something that is going to happen to this world millions and millions of years hence. Therefore, although it is of course a gloomy view to suppose that life will die out -- at least I suppose we may say so, although sometimes when I contemplate the things that people do with their lives I think it is almost a consolation -- it is not such as to render life miserable. It merely makes you turn your attention to other things.

The Moral Arguments for Deity

Now we reach one stage further in what I shall call the intellectual descent that the Theists have made in their argumentations, and we come to what are called the moral arguments for the existence of God. You all know, of course, that there used to be in the old days three intellectual arguments for the existence of God, all of which were disposed of by Immanuel Kant in the Critique of Pure Reason; but no sooner had he disposed of those arguments than he invented a new one, a moral argument, and that quite convinced him. He was like many people: in intellectual matters he was skeptical, but in moral matters he believed implicitly in the maxims that he had imbibed at his mother's knee. That illustrates what the psychoanalysts so much emphasize -- the immensely stronger hold upon us that our very early associations have than those of later times. Kant, as I say, invented a new moral argument for the existence of God, and that in varying forms was extremely popular during the nineteenth century. It has all sorts of forms. One form is to say there would be no right or wrong unless God existed. I am not for the moment concerned with whether there is a difference between right and wrong, or whether there is not: that is another question. The point I am concerned with is that, if you are quite sure there is a difference between right and wrong, then you are in this situation: Is that difference due to God's fiat or is it not? If it is due to God's fiat, then for God himself there is no difference between right and wrong, and it is no longer a significant statement to say that God is good. If you are going to say, as theologians do, that God is good, you must then say that right and wrong have some meaning which is independent of God's fiat, because God's fiats are good and not bad independently of the mere fact that he made them. If you are going to say that, you will then have to say that it is not only through God that right and wrong came into being, but that they are in their essence logically anterior to God. You could, of course, if you liked, say that there was a superior deity who gave orders to the God that made this world, or could take up the line that some of the gnostics took up -- a line which I often thought was a very plausible one -- that as a matter of fact this world that we know was made by the devil at a moment when God was not looking. There is a good deal to be said for that, and I am not concerned to refute it.

The Argument for the Remedying of Injustice

Then there is another very curious form of moral argument, which is this: they say that the existence of God is required in order to bring justice into the world. In the part of this universe that we know there is great injustice, and often the good suffer, and often the wicked prosper, and one hardly knows which of those is the more annoying; but if you are going to have justice in the universe as a whole you have to suppose a future life to redress the balance of life here on earth. So they say that there must be a God, and there must be Heaven and Hell in order that in the long run there may be justice. That is a very curious argument. If you looked at the matter from a scientific point of view, you would say, "After all, I only know this world. I do not know about the rest of the universe, but so far as one can argue at all on probabilities one would say that probably this world is a fair sample, and if there is injustice here the odds are that there is injustice elsewhere also." Supposing you got a crate of oranges that you opened, and you found all the top layer of oranges bad, you would not argue, "The underneath ones must be good, so as to redress the balance." You would say, "Probably the whole lot is a bad consignment"; and that is really what a scientific person would argue about the universe. He would say, "Here we find in this world a great deal of injustice, and so far as that goes that is a reason for supposing that justice does not rule in the world; and therefore so far as it goes it affords a moral argument against deity and not in favor of one." Of course I know that the sort of intellectual arguments that I have been talking to you about are not what really moves people. What really moves people to believe in God is not any intellectual argument at all. Most people believe in God because they have been taught from early infancy to do it, and that is the main reason. Then I think that the next most powerful reason is the wish for safety, a sort of feeling that there is a big brother who will look after you. That plays a very profound part in influencing people's desire for a belief in God.

The Character of Christ

I now want to say a few words upon a topic which I often think is not quite sufficiently dealt with by Rationalists, and that is the question whether Christ was the best and the wisest of men. It is generally taken for granted that we should all agree that that was so. I do not myself. I think that there are a good many points upon which I agree with Christ a great deal more than the professing Christians do. I do not know that I could go with Him all the way, but I could go with Him much further than most professing Christians can. You will remember that He said, "Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." That is not a new precept or a new principle. It was used by Lao-tse and Buddha some 500 or 600 years before Christ, but it is not a principle which as a matter of fact Christians accept. I have no doubt that the present prime minister [Stanley Baldwin], for instance, is a most sincere Christian, but I should not advise any of you to go and smite him on one cheek. I think you might find that he thought this text was intended in a figurative sense. Then there is another point which I consider excellent. You will remember that Christ said, "Judge not lest ye be judged." That principle I do not think you would find was popular in the law courts of Christian countries. I have known in my time quite a number of judges who were very earnest Christians, and none of them felt that they were acting contrary to Christian principles in what they did. Then Christ says, "Give to him that asketh of thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away." That is a very good principle. Your Chairman has reminded you that we are not here to talk politics, but I cannot help observing that the last general election was fought on the question of how desirable it was to turn away from him that would borrow of thee, so that one must assume that the Liberals and Conservatives of this country are composed of people who do not agree with the teaching of Christ, because they certainly did very emphatically turn away on that occasion.
 Then there is one other maxim of Christ which I think has a great deal in it, but I do not find that it is very popular among some of our Christian friends. He says, "If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor." That is a very excellent maxim, but, as I say, it is not much practised. All these, I think, are good maxims, although they are a little difficult to live up to. I do not profess to live up to them myself; but then, after all, it is not quite the same thing as for a Christian.

Defects in Christ's Teaching

Having granted the excellence of these maxims, I come to certain points in which I do not believe that one can grant either the superlative wisdom or the superlative goodness of Christ as depicted in the Gospels; and here I may say that one is not concerned with the historical question. Historically it is quite doubtful whether Christ ever existed at all, and if He did we do not know anything about him, so that I am not concerned with the historical question, which is a very difficult one. I am concerned with Christ as He appears in the Gospels, taking the Gospel narrative as it stands, and there one does find some things that do not seem to be very wise. For one thing, he certainly thought that His second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the people who were living at that time. There are a great many texts that prove that. He says, for instance, "Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of Man be come." Then he says, "There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom"; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed that His second coming would happen during the lifetime of many then living. That was the belief of His earlier followers, and it was the basis of a good deal of His moral teaching. When He said, "Take no thought for the morrow," and things of that sort, it was very largely because He thought that the second coming was going to be very soon, and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count. I have, as a matter of fact, known some Christians who did believe that the second coming was imminent. I knew a parson who frightened his congregation terribly by telling them that the second coming was very imminent indeed, but they were much consoled when they found that he was planting trees in his garden. The early Christians did really believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the second coming was imminent. In that respect, clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise. 

The Moral Problem

Then you come to moral questions. There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ's moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment. Christ certainly as depicted in the Gospels did believe in everlasting punishment, and one does find repeatedly a vindictive fury against those people who would not listen to His preaching -- an attitude which is not uncommon with preachers, but which does somewhat detract from superlative excellence. You do not, for instance find that attitude in Socrates. You find him quite bland and urbane toward the people who would not listen to him; and it is, to my mind, far more worthy of a sage to take that line than to take the line of indignation. You probably all remember the sorts of things that Socrates was saying when he was dying, and the sort of things that he generally did say to people who did not agree with him. You will find that in the Gospels Christ said, "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of Hell." That was said to people who did not like His preaching. It is not really to my mind quite the best tone, and there are a great many of these things about Hell. There is, of course, the familiar text about the sin against the Holy Ghost: "Whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven him neither in this World nor in the world to come." That text has caused an unspeakable amount of misery in the world, for all sorts of people have imagined that they have committed the sin against the Holy Ghost, and thought that it would not be forgiven them either in this world or in the world to come. I really do not think that a person with a proper degree of kindliness in his nature would have put fears and terrors of that sort into the world.
 Then Christ says, "The Son of Man shall send forth his His angels, and they shall gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity, and shall cast them into a furnace of fire; there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth"; and He goes on about the wailing and gnashing of teeth. It comes in one verse after another, and it is quite manifest to the reader that there is a certain pleasure in contemplating wailing and gnashing of teeth, or else it would not occur so often. Then you all, of course, remember about the sheep and the goats; how at the second coming He is going to divide the sheep from the goats, and He is going to say to the goats, "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire." He continues, "And these shall go away into everlasting fire." Then He says again, "If thy hand offend thee, cut it off; it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into Hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched; where the worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched." He repeats that again and again also. I must say that I think all this doctrine, that hell-fire is a punishment for sin, is a doctrine of cruelty. It is a doctrine that put cruelty into the world and gave the world generations of cruel torture; and the Christ of the Gospels, if you could take Him asHis chroniclers represent Him, would certainly have to be considered partly responsible for that.
 There are other things of less importance. There is the instance of the Gadarene swine, where it certainly was not very kind to the pigs to put the devils into them and make them rush down the hill into the sea. You must remember that He was omnipotent, and He could have made the devils simply go away; but He chose to send them into the pigs. Then there is the curious story of the fig tree, which always rather puzzled me. You remember what happened about the fig tree. "He was hungry; and seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, He came if haply He might find anything thereon; and when He came to it He found nothing but leaves, for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it: 'No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever' . . . and Peter . . . saith unto Him: 'Master, behold the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.'" This is a very curious story, because it was not the right time of year for figs, and you really could not blame the tree. I cannot myself feel that either in the matter of wisdom or in the matter of virtue Christ stands quite as high as some other people known to history. I think I should put Buddha and Socrates above Him in those respects.

The Emotional Factor

As I said before, I do not think that the real reason why people accept religion has anything to do with argumentation. They accept religion on emotional grounds. One is often told that it is a very wrong thing to attack religion, because religion makes men virtuous. So I am told; I have not noticed it. You know, of course, the parody of that argument in Samuel Butler's book, Erewhon Revisited. You will remember that in Erewhon there is a certain Higgs who arrives in a remote country, and after spending some time there he escapes from that country in a balloon. Twenty years later he comes back to that country and finds a new religion in which he is worshiped under the name of the "Sun Child," and it is said that he ascended into heaven. He finds that the Feast of the Ascension is about to be celebrated, and he hears Professors Hanky and Panky say to each other that they never set eyes on the man Higgs, and they hope they never will; but they are the high priests of the religion of the Sun Child. He is very indignant, and he comes up to them, and he says, "I am going to expose all this humbug and tell the people of Erewhon that it was only I, the man Higgs, and I went up in a balloon." He was told, "You must not do that, because all the morals of this country are bound round this myth, and if they once know that you did not ascend into Heaven they will all become wicked"; and so he is persuaded of that and he goes quietly away. That is the idea -- that we should all be wicked if we did not hold to the Christian religion. It seems to me that the people who have held to it have been for the most part extremely wicked. You find this curious fact, that the more intense has been the religion of any period and the more profound has been the dogmatic belief, the greater has been the cruelty and the worse has been the state of affairs. In the so-called ages of faith, when men really did believe the Christian religion in all its completeness, there was the Inquisition, with all its tortures; there were millions of unfortunate women burned as witches; and there was every kind of cruelty practiced upon all sorts of people in the name of religion.
 You find as you look around the world that every single bit of progress in humane feeling, every improvement in the criminal law, every step toward the diminution of war, every step toward better treatment of the colored races, or every mitigation of slavery, every moral progress that there has been in the world, has been consistently opposed by the organized churches of the world. I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.

How the Churches Have Retarded Progress

You may think that I am going too far when I say that that is still so. I do not think that I am. Take one fact. You will bear with me if I mention it. It is not a pleasant fact, but the churches compel one to mention facts that are not pleasant. Supposing that in this world that we live in today an inexperienced girl is married to a syphilitic man; in that case the Catholic Church says, "This is an indissoluble sacrament. You must endure celibacy or stay together. And if you stay together, you must not use birth control to prevent the birth of syphilitic children." Nobody whose natural sympathies have not been warped by dogma, or whose moral nature was not absolutely dead to all sense of suffering, could maintain that it is right and proper that that state of things should continue. That is only an example. There are a great many ways in which, at the present moment, the church, by its insistence upon what it chooses to call morality, inflicts upon all sorts of people undeserved and unnecessary suffering. And of course, as we know, it is in its major part an opponent still of progress and improvement in all the ways that diminish suffering in the world, because it has chosen to label as morality a certain narrow set of rules of conduct which have nothing to do with human happiness; and when you say that this or that ought to be done because it would make for human happiness, they think that has nothing to do with the matter at all. "What has human happiness to do with morals? The object of morals is not to make people happy."

Fear, the Foundation of Religion

Religion is based, I think, primarily and mainly upon fear. It is partly the terror of the unknown and partly, as I have said, the wish to feel that you have a kind of elder brother who will stand by you in all your troubles and disputes. Fear is the basis of the whole thing -- fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. It is because fear is at the basis of those two things. In this world we can now begin a little to understand things, and a little to master them by help of science, which has forced its way step by step against the Christian religion, against the churches, and against the opposition of all the old precepts. Science can help us to get over this craven fear in which mankind has lived for so many generations. Science can teach us, and I think our own hearts can teach us, no longer to look around for imaginary supports, no longer to invent allies in the sky, but rather to look to our own efforts here below to make this world a better place to live in, instead of the sort of place that the churches in all these centuries have made it. 

What We Must Do

We want to stand upon our own feet and look fair and square at the world -- its good facts, its bad facts, its beauties, and its ugliness; see the world as it is and be not afraid of it. Conquer the world by intelligence and not merely by being slavishly subdued by the terror that comes from it. The whole conception of God is a conception derived from the ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men. When you hear people in church debasing themselves and saying that they are miserable sinners, and all the rest of it, it seems contemptible and not worthy of self-respecting human beings. We ought to stand up and look the world frankly in the face. We ought to make the best we can of the world, and if it is not so good as we wish, after all it will still be better than what these others have made of it in all these ages. A good world needs knowledge, kindliness, and courage; it does not need a regretful hankering after the past or a fettering of the free intelligence by the words uttered long ago by ignorant men. It needs a fearless outlook and a free intelligence. It needs hope for the future, not looking back all the time toward a past that is dead, which we trust will be far surpassed by the future that our intelligence can create.

Electronic colophon: This electronic edition of "Why I Am Not a Christian" was first made available by Bruce MacLeod on his "Watchful Eye Russell Page." It was newly corrected (from Edwards, NY 1957) in July 1996 by John R. Lenz for the Bertrand Russell Society.

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Tuesday, January 15, 2013

A Rose by Any Other NAME...

and the knotty NST propaganda-gandawanganda:(~~~~


William Shakespeare has been lauded as the greatest writer on planet Earth just as Albert Einstein acknowledged as the greatest scientific mind. If thou art UNABLE to quote at least one Shakespearean famous lines, then thou art an IGnoramus in English Lit. (Lit is short for Literaure lah, why the raised eyebrow?)

So today -- unlike Yesterday, and last Saturday when 150,000 more or less gathered at the historic Merdeka Stadium, when ALL OUR TROUBLES SEEM'D SO FAR AWAY... --I share some background amidst the current controversy on the use of the word "ALLAH" which has been making reprises/reprisals on the multi-ethnic and mutli-religious NegaraKu, my beloved homeland, I just extract the famous line, as HIGHLIGHTED THUS***** in the extract below from phrases.org.uk:)~~~~~~


 A rose by any other name would smell as sweet

Meaning

What matters is what something is, not what it is called.

Origin

From Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, 1600:
JULIET:
      'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
      Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
      What's Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
      Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
      Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
      What's in a name? that which we call a rose
      By any other name would smell as sweet;

      So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
      Retain that dear perfection which he owes
      Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
      And for that name which is no part of thee
      Take all myself.
A story, much favoured by tour guides, and as such highly suspect, is that in this line Shakespeare was also making a joke at the expense of the Rose Theatre. The Rose was a local rival to his Globe Theatre and is reputed to have had less than effective sanitary arrangements. The story goes that this was a coy joke about the smell. This certainly has the whiff of folk etymology about it, but it might just be true.



From the knotty NST online, always acting as Eco-chamber to His Master's Voice, cometh this, repeated oft attack on PAS and its leaders:(~~~~

'Allah for Muslims only'


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ABOUT-TURN: Nik Aziz changes his mind to appease Pas Syura Council

KOTA BARU: IN a move seen to appease the Pas Syura Council, party spiritual adviser Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat yesterday made an about-turn on the use of the word "Allah" by non-Muslims.
He said devotees of other religions, including Christianity and Hinduism, were not allowed to refer to God as "Allah" as they were polytheistic individuals who prayed to "multiple Gods".
Nik Aziz insisted that the word "Allah" was exclusive to Muslims as they believed in His Oneness.
"If followers of other religions insist on using the word 'Allah' as the name of their various gods, it will defile the sanctity of the word," he said at Sultan Ismail Petra Airport in Pengkalan Chepa here.
Nik Aziz added that should individuals insist on using the word "Allah" to describe their God, they should also acknowledge that there was only one God they could worship and pray to.
"It is absurd for devotees of a polytheistic religion, who believe in more than one God, to use the word 'Allah' to describe them. Why is there the need to call their God 'Allah' when they believe in many gods?"
He, however, admitted that it would be difficult to restrain people of other faiths from using "Allah" in their religious practices.
Nik Aziz had previously agreed that non-Muslims should be allowed to use the word although its use was, in principle, limited to Muslims.
+++++The Syura Council, which is the supreme decision-making body in Pas, had on Sunday unanimously decided that non-Muslims were forbidden from using "Allah" in their holy books.
Nik Aziz, who is Syura Council chief, later issued a statement on behalf of the council, making it clear that any translation of "Allah" would not reflect the real meaning of the sacred word.
The controversy surrounding the use of the word "Allah" resurfaced after DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng, in a Christmas message, urged the government to allow Christians to use the word in the Bahasa Melayu version of the Bible.
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Pas spiritual adviser Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat says if followers of other religions insist on using the word ‘Allah’ as the name of their various gods, it will defile the sanctity of the word. Pic by Zaman Huri Isa


Read more: 'Allah for Muslims only' - General - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/allah-for-muslims-only-1.201482#ixzz2I11GhjMs


DESIDERATA: I strongly believe that ONE LINER from Shakespeare is the BEST REBUTTAL to the Islamic extremists. Please note Tok Guru Nik Aziz said, and I quote, HIGHLIGHTED THUS IN RED AGAIN: : "He, however, admitted that it would be difficult to restrain people of other faiths from using "Allah" in their religious practices." 

Taken in context, along with this line, +++++The Syura Council, which is the supreme decision-making body in Pas, had on Sunday unanimously decided that non-Muslims were forbidden from using "Allah" in their holy books.I believe we may continue to use this word in verbal form, but not as now advised by the PAS leaders in WRITTEN form as in BM version of the bible.

I have oft told my EsteemedReaders (ER) here I would continue my comments in my posts that I would where I temp (for temporarily lah, why the raised eyebrow agin?) left off that I would come back to writHe more/aMore, InsyaAllah/Godwilling... Is there anybody out there/dare who wants to censure Desi?

Hey, as I say,m we ain't going to have the government, especially misguided UMNO-led authorities to control even our thoughts next -- I would continue to have "dirty" thoughts when watching SMASH (now being replayed over Ch 702, for those who missed it...) visualising the contours of Marilyn M in their most beguiling forms --IS THAT A CRIME? -- although Katharine McPhee reprising MMonroe's part DID NOT GIVE IN TO THE DIRECTOR'S SEDUCTION when she sang ""Happy Birthday to You (Mr President) when the director invited the naive actress over for a nightcap to enhance her chances of getting the plum role...Ah, Desi will continueto visualise  the curves and voluptiousness of the ORI MARILYN, would thesethought-police that UMNO-extremist holier than thou types be able to "read my thoughts" and charge me in court for THINKING DIRTY?

Till that day cometh, Desi would continue to say, InsyaAllah, I would come back to writHe more/aMore!:)

PS: updateD Jan 16 at 1009PM ~~~ I believe it's the EGO that drives many religious leaders to argue and debate and finally hoping to win the "debate" like one's absolute ownership of using the term "Allah" for God -- but then this defeatys the whole purpose of SPIRITUAL SANCTITY, IS IT NOT? It is not ours to try to be ONE UP ON OUR OPPONENTS; I guess HUMILITY is always held in high esteem in ALL RELIGIOUS TEACHINGS, is it not? That explains WHY often bigots often SEE THE SPECH IN THE NEIGHBOUR'S EYE, BUT NOT THE BEAM IN ONE'S OWN! I have often been PUT OFF by many preachers, of whatever faith, BECAUSE THEY ARE DOGMATIC AND INTO:LERANT OF REASONING and DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW.

Hey, it's no point APPEARING HOLY&MIGHTY but in real life, you don't even walk 20percent of what you preach! Ah, like politicians, innit? And itsn't it the politicains are wasting the people's time spewing out polemics and wanupmanship over their opponents?

I think I will rst here because as I said befoe, I don't enjoy treading into THIS TERRORTRY of religious discourse. At the end of day, it is still Man Proposes, God Disposes. Sometimes Desi adds: "Woeman XXposes", but you wanna know what I mean, buy me endless rounds of tehtari' at De Miang Koner, CUN?